Saturday, February 14, 2009

Obama Threatens Keyes and other Eligibility Plaintiffs

As many of you know, I am party to one of the lawsuits seeking evidence that would help to establish, one way or the other, whether Obama in fact meets the U.S. Constitution's eligibility requirements for the office of President of the United States. To understand my view of the critical issues involved see the WND articles The End of the Constitutional Republic, and Obama, Oaths and the End of Constitutional Government.) Now Obama's lawyers have filed a motion to quash our effort to obtain the relevant documents (cf. Bob Unruh's WND article Sanctions sought in eligibility case.) I am told that it includes a demand that monetary penalties be assessed against me and the other plaintiffs in the suit. Though not unexpected, this motion confirms Obama's ruthless determination to destroy anyone who continues to seek the information the Constitution requires. Why should they demand penalties against citizens who are simply seeking the enforcement of the Supreme Law of the Land? It is simply because their persistence runs contrary to the will of a supposedly popular demagogue? This smacks of tyrannical arrogance. That Obama thus signals his intent to bring financial ruin on those who won't accept his cover-up of the circumstances of his birth is a tactical escalation. It confirms the common sense suspicion that he won't act forthrightly in this matter because he has something to hide.

As one of the targets of this escalation, I need no more convincing proof of the ruthless disposition so far successfully masked by his empty rhetoric of hope and change. Obviously he means to offer hope only to those willing to surrender their most basic rights. To any who insist on questioning his actions, he offers the drastic change of ruin and destruction. So be it. We shall be among those who learn firsthand the meaning of the sacrifices made by the Founders of our free republic, as they pledged and gave up their lives, their fortunes and the world's esteem.

To tell you the truth, I expected Obama's ruthlessness, as I expect that it will escalate until his threats extend to liberty and even life itself. Tyrants are like that (yeah, they are.) What I am not so certain of is the disposition of the people of this country, and in particular of those who still avow allegiance to the Constitutional Republic. For all their posturing in opposition to Obama's socialist schemes, Republican Party leaders show no disposition to notice, much less decry, his determination to subvert the Constitution. But does the self-serving reticence of such so-called leadership truly represent the disposition of the people whose sovereignty they seem so ready to abandon? In politics as in war, real leadership does not consist in titles and position, but in those willing to stand in the forefront of the battle, where taunts and wounds and even death await the ones who raise a rallying flag. The fate of that flag depends, however, not on their willingness to brave the dangers, but on the courage and heart of those who, seeing that flag, return with renewed courage to the fight. Though they know not if it will stand or fall, will they decide that either way it should not meet its fate without them?

People who have been watching recent events with any discernment must realize by now that, for all his talk of material salvation for the masses, the Obama faction really means to strengthen only those willing to serve in the army of their domineering ambition. Thanks to the phony stimulus package, they will soon have billions of taxpayer dollars with which to nourish this servile allegiance to his will. Including myself, many of the people willing to articulate and act against his overthrow of Constitutional liberty have nothing in their coffers except the grace from God to see a little truth, and the courage to speak it, drawing upon the example of His Son. But time and again in America's history, a little truth has been sufficient to reach into the reserve of love for God and liberty on tap in the patriot hearts and consciences of those who would be free.

So to my fellow plaintiffs with the courage to stand firm, and to all those who may lose by the price they pay for it, I say keep faith and pray- not so much for yourselves as for the heart and conscience of the good people of your country. Trust that there still burns a candlelight of liberty within them, and a thought for those who would rather be consumed as its wick than surrender to the wickedness that now seeks its destruction.

Worth considering? Then don't forget to DIGG IT!!!!


69 comments:

spiker said...

Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!
http://tinyurl.com/dzvozs

KL said...

Mr. Keyes: The Republican party leaders may not be supportive, but millions of "We the People" are. Fight on!

xoomac said...

Ambassador Keyes,

My Valentine's Day prayer is that the best black man who ran for POTUS 11/4/08 (you) supplant this NWO patsy puppet POTUS shill ASAP via a FREE election after Lady Liberty's LIGHT of TRUTH exposes his deeds of darkness still seeking the sanctuary of the sinister shadow government pulling his socialist-sell-out strings.

God bless, keep, and speed you, Dr. Orly Taitz, the 4 TN Rep's, and all other co-plaintiffs taking a stand for our freedom demanding accountability of BO/BS by insisting he tell the TRUTH just like Sen. McCain did, esp. since he signed the Sen. Resolution that helped vet Sen. John McCain via the same exact standard 4 the same exact reason of "natural born citizen" eligibility in accordance with Article 2 Section 1 of our Constitution.

I voted for Chuck Baldwin (not Obama or McCain), but would vote 4 you today if the FREE election were held Ambassador Alan Keyes.

You embrace all the absolutes I hold most dear, including Christ as Lord of All, the right 2 life, and our other unalienable God-given rights 2 liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

4 such a time as this were U born, sir. Though none go with you (i.e. the pusillanimous politicians of like-reputed standing such as the 111th Congress), still We the People such as myself will follow, because the mantle U bear while carrying freedom's flame to keep Lady Liberty's torch alive and well must needs B passed on 2 the next generation of liberty-loving LIGHT bearers of TRUTH, 2.

May God sustain and speed your sojourn as our most stalwart champion of the constitution!

Faye said...

If he were a natural born citizen he would have proved it long ago and ended all this. Mike

jbjd said...

Ambassador Keyes, let us assume for a moment that, you are BO; and you have been a named Defendant in 20 separate civil lawsuits filed in various states but all based on the same cause of action. Each time, you hired lawyers to defend against the suit and protect your privacy. And each time, a judge dismissed the suit, agreeing with you that, Plaintiffs had no right to bring this case in the first place, and hinting that the rambling allegations laid out in Plaintiffs' pleadings bordered on the ridiculous. Twenty-one, 22, 23 identical suits, with identical results. Twenty-four. Now, it's suit 25. Do you suppose that, perhaps, at this point, you, too, might seek the assistance of the Court, to forestall a lifetime of such suits? I am not saying that, I believe BO is a NBC, because he is not. I am saying that, this fact alone does not justify throwing multiple identical frivolous lawsuits at him and clogging up the Courts.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

Alan Keyes said...

jbjd,
The suits were not dismissed as frivolous (which implies a lack of substance). The cases taken to the Supreme Court were simply ignored. In effect, the Courts are refusing to admit plaintiffs on this matter into the courtroom, thereby denying them justice. Madison wrote "Justice is the end of government. It is the end of civil society. It will be pursued either until it be obtained or until liberty be lost in the pursuit." The denial of justice is thus a despotic act that violates the basis not only of just government, but of civil society itself.
Given the Constitutional requirement, the only fact citizens need to justify their suit is the fact that Obama ran for President. He asked to be chosen, and therefore must answer the eligibility question (i.e., is he choosable.)
Moreover, given the fact that McCain was asked the question, and steps were taken to secure an answer, another Constitutional provision (re equal protection of the laws( in this case the supreme law of the land) is in play. In the final analysis if the Courts refuse to respect the Constitution, they are not the judges of their own action. The people must ultimately decide. Which is why I and others will use every outlet to inform them of the injustice being done not just to individuals, but to the sovereign people as a whole.

jbjd said...

Sir, your response to the language in my previous comment mischaracterizes the use of the word "frivolous" contained therein. The comment does mention that dozens of previous lawsuits were dismissed but states this as the reason why: they had no legal right, based on issues like standing or jurisdiction, to bring the case. And it never hints that bringing a legally infirm suit is "frivolous" but only that, bringing the same suit, over and over again, assuming the same legal posture and asserting the same legal claims that have been defeated, over and over again, is, to pen a term of art in the legal field, "frivolous."

As for equal protection claims, these are not implicated where the subject of the 'Constitutional' review requested that review. Besides, no one other than the subject of this review has "standing" to assert an equal protection claim.

dave said...

Mr Keyes,
The question to ask may not be if he was born in Hawaii, but rather did he renounce his citizenship when he traveled back to Indonesia in 1981 to renew his passport for a trip to Pakistan. Given that Indonesia did not accept dual-citizenship until 2001, it is an obvious assumption that he would have had to reaffirm his Indonesian citizenship, with a renounciation of citizenship of ANY other country. Under the Supreme Court decision in Vance v. Terrazas in 1980, that would have meant Obama is not an American, by birth or otherwise, and not legally qualified to occupy the Oval Office. And since he knowingly traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when Americans weren't allowed in Pakistan, by either American or Pakistani law, it can be assumed that he "knowingly" and "willingly" renounced his American Citizenship.

Alan Keyes said...

jbjd,
No, I think it may be you who misunderstand. As explained to me, each of the new cases has been brought by new plaintiffs with different characteristics, in an effort to address the purported lack of standing. The notion that no one has standing to demand respect for the Constitution is absurd, so citizens cannot be blamed for continuing their efforts to satisfy the Courts in this regard until the right persons are found. I was asked to join the lawsuit I am party to because my name was on the CA ballot for President, as nominee of the American Independent Party. This case has not been dismissed, but simply delayed on specious grounds. It's apparent that in other cases the standing objection was and is simply an excuse for denying anyone a fair hearing. That is a denial of justice.
In the CA case, by the way, I don't believe the request for penalties has anything to do with the standing question, since standing has not been denied. The objection comes in the context of the discovery process, and has to do with the relevance of the information we requested. One has therefore to deal with the relevance issue on its merits, which, in his response, my attorney is addressing.

Let us move forward said...

Dave,

I read that the State Department has taken the position since the mid 1990s that a US citizen will not lose citizenship unless he or she files a formal written request to renounce that citizenship to the US government.

Would the Terrazas decision stand up in Court today considering how the State Department's policy? That may be the weakness in Mr. Os citizenship. There is some weakness if Mr. O requested a legal review prior to his run for the Office.

However, he may have not required the Indonesian passport to enter Pakistan. He may have had a local "sponsor" and it was reported stayed at the house of a government official while in Pakistan.

It seems that Pakistan may be willing to assist in this investigation especially if he gets on the wrong side of the government.

Kathy

xoomac said...

What really matters is the "supreme law of the land," which is purportedly our constitution. If in fact it has NOT been "suspended" via EXECUTIVE ORDER(s) by a previous POTUS (from FDR 2 present) subjecting We the People once again 2 subjugated servile status under "admiralty law," which some believe is why a "gold fringe" is surrounding our American Flag in all court rooms, and federal govt buildings, although some naively believe it is merely ceremonial/decorative, then perhaps exercising our 10th Amendment CA state's rights via the '84 state sovereignty resolution, like 20 other states have done, can legally circumvent the "frivolous" or "no standing" or "dismissed w/o comment" ridiculous rulings handed down so far by our SCOTUS, which is the weakest of the 3 branches of our government by design BTW.

If Sen. John McCain was brought 2 bear up under the same scrutiny and passed with flying colors because he completely cooperated with the official investigation into his own "natural born citizen" Article 2 Section 1 eligibility 2 B POTUS, then why shouldn't the SAME STANDARD B brought 2 bear now upon BO/BS, especially since he still has yet 2 produce 'definitive proof' such as a long form "certificate of live birth" as "primary evidence" in lieu of the forged or fake 'certification of live birth' from Hawaii, which is but "secondary evidence" as it shows NEITHER the 'hospital name' or the 'obstetrician's name' nor any 'witnesses' names!

The reason that this is such a BIG deal 2 me is because he swore with his hand on a BIBLE 2 "uphold, defend, and protect" the very document he is now flouting and holding in complete contempt! U can't have it both ways! U can't swear 2 uphold what you are coincidentally with complicit culpability by the SCOTUS, DNC, GOP, et al, duplicitously defraud! unless, of coure, U R a MUSLIM, because perjuring yourself 2 exterminate more "infidels" is totally justifiable!

The adage of "If you want to know the TRUTH, follow the MONEY, HONEY!" certainly applies here as BO/BS has already tapped into almost $1 MILLION DOLLARS (whose $$$ BTW) 2 secure the services of multiple law firms to prevent discovery of the TRUTH that he signed a Sen. Resolution vetting Sen. McCain 4 the same reason.

Double standards notwithstanding, CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE en masse needs to ensue, including ARTICLE 138's being filed by military personnel demanding to know the TRUTH, too!

NO ANSWERS = NO $$$ (i.e. TAXES) and NO STATE SUBSERVIENCE anymore! The federal government is constitutionally the servant of the states, NTO the other way around! Read the constitution Bush called a "god da_n piece of paper" and BO/BS loves 2 flout with impunity!

dave said...

Kathy,
according to US law this is what I have found so far:Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship. United States common law establishes an arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child's understanding must be established by substantial evidence.
also found this: Sec. 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized
citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions



(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality - (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or (2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or (3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or (4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or (5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or (6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or (7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction. (b) Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after September 26, 1961 under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this chapter or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence. Any person who commits or performs, or who has committed or performed, any act of expatriation under the provisions of this chapter or any other Act shall be presumed to have done so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted upon a showing, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the act or acts committed or performed were not done voluntarily.
they are long, but this is the law, it is not about what position the State Department takes. We have already seen what position the Supreme Court has taken on this matter in regards to protecting an obvious socialist

Holly Borei said...

Mr. Keyes,

You are such a blessing and a rare jewel. There is no doubt that will be many jewels in your crown. I want to thank you for always standing up for truth in a world where truth is so unpopular and sometimes downright dangerous. Please keep fighting for us. I praise God for you for your strength, courage and dedication. I will keep you and your family in prayers and for you I claim this with love and victory in Christ:

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper ; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn . This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 54:17 KJV

Huey A. said...

Is anyone paying attention? The Clinton puppeteers have taken office with a new puppet. Global Governance is taking a strong hold while we argue about a Constitution which in their eyes no longer exist. The U.S.A. no longer exist, it is owned by the U.N.. In fact we are all slaves to that communist organization. More states such as New Hampshire need to secede from the Union and get this Civil War started.

Good luck Mr. Keyes, as Jesus said, 'you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free'. But beware the truth is why he was murdered.

Obamaverifybirthplace.com said...

One suit per state is hardly a clog...

psychlite said...

Dr. Alan Keyes is one of the few Patriots and intellects of this generation. His opposition to one of the most disgraceful and odious events in this country's history needs no further commendation.

Mr. Barry Soetoro / aka Barack H. Obama is merely a jive talking huskster flim-flam con artist that roam the world, seeking to steal power by any means. This country is now in a very sad state of affairs, bordering on the likes of those we arrogantly refer to as banana republics. We have by all accounts an illegitimate executive one along with a cowardly judicial and a entirely corrupt legislative twig.

Should this criminal fraud and his accomplices succeed in destroying this country, it will be the responsibility of the millions of know nothings and do nothings. It will also be their grave loss.

Zapem said...

I wonder if people have gone back in history and realized that these suits are nothing new. From the 1800's to 2008, this issue is not a "tin-foil hat" conspiracy, but rather a matter of interpretation of minds that the Supreme Court has continued not to rule on. That's a fact.

To name a few from history, in no particular order, there's McClellan, Gen. Meade, Herter, Roosevelt Jr., Hoover, Romney, Albright, Kissinger, etc. -- all with eligibility issues. However, not one of them ever attempted to hire a bevy of attorneys bent on withholding the facts of their heritage with a privacy defense. It was absurd to think in those days. You would have been laughed out of the running.

Fast forward to 2008 and what do we see? So-called Americans defending Obama's "right" to privacy? No one has privacy when they are running for public office that demands qualification proofs. In fact, to even be considered for employment in Obama's administration, you must answer questions such as when was the last time you fired a firearm! Is it now the position of a certain faction that it's ok to pry into the backgrounds of civilians but civilians have no right or "standing" to ask even the basic questions afforded to them under the Constitution as to his qualifications?

I say, some people need to get their heads and priorities on straight. Ridiculing people for having the nerve to ask such questions is a tactic, not an answer.

Ponder this: In 1964, a suit was brought before the NJ Superior asking that Barry Goldwater be removed from the ballot. Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it was admitted into the union. The suit contended that Goldwater was therefore not a natural born citizen. After reviewing the facts of Goldwater's birth and heritage, Judge Barlow dismissed the case with the caveat that the argument was "much too narrow and restrictive". The Judge was passing on making a natural born citizen determination to the higher court, but at least he allowed discovery of the facts. These Judges today aren't doing that -- they aren't allowing any discovery. They are negligent in their duty. Show me one Judge that has ordered the presentation of evidence so that he could even attempt to come to a judicial conclusion? There isn't ONE!

This is nothing new except for the fact that we're now reduced to not even being able to see the qualifications in full.

So I say to all those who decry the fact that the courts are being bombarded with "frivilous" lawsuits, go scream at the courts. It was their duty to at least look at the full record of facts. If the NJ Superior Court could do that much in 1964, what's the excuse today? We've now become so lax that Factcheck.org becomes legal discovery evidence? Give me a break! Ponder the absurdity of that one. No, seriously. Ponder it. Then go ponder the scrutiny done to the people mentioned above and come back and tell me that it's "frivilous".

What is it about Obama that makes him so special that he is above what the others in history have gone through?

The only thing NEW here is the audacity of fluffing off a Constitutional requirement which entitles the people to all the evidence available.

When people become so partisan that they denounce those who continue to ask that that evidence be forced out into the open, they should ask themselves what they're afraid of finding out. Playing this little game of pointing fingers in the other direction to get the heat off themselves, isn't going to fly. It's a tactic and a political ruse.

Dad said...

Alan,
Something here is missing in the legal pleadings. I'm no lawyer but I do know that if the pleadings aren't extremely cogent then it is easy for the claimed innocent(Obama) to ward off the claimant, which is what I believe is happening. Some how one must get some witnesses or evidence pertaining to what happened in the very early stages of the vetting process to make a good case. I think all is at a dead zone until this can be achieved no matter what anyone purports to be true or untrue about Obama's NBC status.
Mike Staudacher

Wayne said...

Mr. Keys, I appreciate your effort to prove one way or the other whether Obama is qualified to be president. I also would encourage you to start something like a several million person march on DC to protest the people who are running our country into the ground. I know may who would join today to do just that march on DC
in mass to rid the country of these people.

An said...

Dear Mr. Keyes,
I have been following this situation from way back in the primaries. I have been completely shocked at how the Democrats and the Republicans as well as the courts and especially the media have turned a blind eye to this! I am proud of people like you who are willing to stand up for the people and the constitution. There are a lot of people watching and worried about this, about Obama and about what the Democratic party is doing.
I personally feel like I am watching helplessly while I watch how a country can be taken over by a demagogue.
Thank you so much for what you are doing.

Peter said...

Mr.Keyes.

Thank you so much for at least keeping this going. Obama soetoro tends to claim he is from Chicago. I know I am from chicago. I was born here and can prove it. Obama may have lived here but he is not FROM chicago let alone the U.S.A. I have no doubt this fraud is a Trojan that has infiltrated our government and is poised for the creation of the NAU and the abolishment of our borders to the north and south. Every single person he is adding to his cabinet/staff is either a past criminal in opne way or another, an open borders pro illegal alien supporter, or both. this man has the end of the U.S.A. in his sights and he needs to be stopped! USSA my behind! How can we the American Citizens of the U.S.A. file a clas action lawsuit? WND has over 200,000 signatures asking for Obama to disclose his BC. The numbers are growing everyday! Keep spreading the word, those who say you have a tim foil hat on are the ones to blame for this mess. And they are already beginning to see that what they have been warned about Obama is coming true.

Obama talks about Bi Partisan? If you listen to what he is saying he is saying that they all need to join him on the Dark Side.

PEACE.

Gilbert said...

My Dad died last year. Before my Mom could claim what he left to her (some of which she is STILL having TO CLAIM), she had to prove to everyone who ALREADY KNEW WHO THEY BOTH WERE that she was, in fact, herself, married to my father AND he was actually dead. ALL OF THIS was done with legal documents. Legal. Not the one you get with your footprints on it after you are first born, but LEGAL. The same ones you and I have to use to do ANYTHING in the US (unless we are illegal...)

Please do not waste readers' time with poorly planned and executed "legal" arguments with Ambassador Keyes. I think maybe he is just a little more used to speaking and working in this fashion and most of us "regular" folk do not find that in the least bit attractive about commentators. That is why we voted for him and not some jbjd or whomever...

If you are not part of the SOLUTION, you are the problem. America, put the potato chips down, learn to read and STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS.

And get ready... you are getting ready to get $13 for voting for Obama! WOW! How to spend all that criminulus, I mean stimulus money...

paul said...

Dear Dr Keyes: In praying for our country and its safe future, I am grateful to have persons such as yourself to commend by name to the Divine Mercy that your efforts be blessed and given victory. May She to whom this country was once consecrated obtain for you ongoing wisdom and strength that the freedom we have enjoyed as a union might not perish from the face of the earth. Mary Immaculate be with you to crush the head of tyranny.

kcjavaman said...

Now that the stimulus package has been signed into law, couldn't "We the People" start a class action lawsuit for verification?

Most Rev. Gregori said...

Dr. Keyes, I have posted articles on my blog about the scam being perpetrated on the American people, and I won't give up simply because I am an American by birth and I love my country, but I am saddened by the fact that this is NOT the same America that I grew up in. We have lost our moral compass and to tell the truth, short of an armed revolution, I don't know how to get this country back on the right track.

We need to get the people of America to turn back to God, if not, all will be lost.

obamaconspiracy.org said...

The Keyes v. Obama lawsuit is based on a presidential order that:
1. Only applies to new hires after mid April 2009
2. Only applies to contractors and civil service employees
3. And explicitly excludes its use as a cause of action (lawsuit).
Surely you know that the lawsuit doesn't have any chance of prevailing whatever.

Convince me that the lawsuit is not harassment or part of a smear campaign. And if it is, is not some kind of sanction warranted?

Alan Keyes said...

obamaconspiracy,
The California case where Obama's lawyers have raised the question of sanctions does not rely on any presidential order. It simply seeks respect for the provisions of the Constitution regarding eligibility for the Office of President. How does the word "smear" enter into it? If I apply for a job claiming that I meet certain qualifications, is it somehow a smear campaign when I am asked to produce valid and properly certified copies of the documents that prove my claims? No, it's a normal part of the hiring process. It's an especially important part of the process when the job involves life and death issues (like performing brain surgery, or in this case making decisions that affect the national security of several hundred million Americans, or securing America's borders, or sending American troops possibly to their deaths, or launching American nuclear weapons that can wipe out whole cities.) Is it right to blame and penalize Americans for wanting to be sure the person making decisions for America meets the Constitutional requirement for American citizenship?

obamaconspiracy.org said...

You said: "Though not unexpected, this motion confirms Obama's ruthless determination to destroy anyone who continues to seek the information the Constitution requires."

I would think you would read the motions filed in your own lawsuit instead of reading WorldNetDaily's tabloid-style headlines. The motion filed does NOT request damages. The threat is there in the declaration, but not in the motion.

Periwinkle Pete said...

Does anyone know who does check the requirements before a candidate can run? Is there such a person/organization? Did someone check Obama's, McCain's, etc. credentials before the were allowed to run?

Reno said...

Mr. Keyes,
I would also like to add my heart felt thank you for having the backbone to stand up for this country! I would like to reiterate Wayne’s comment regarding a march on Washington, I would spend my last dime to get there to support you if you would help organize such a march. I would also like to make sure that people realize that the lawsuit that was brought against BO/BS, McCain and a gentlemen named Roger Colera in NJ was thrown out of two courts because the plaintiffs had “No Standing” but the case certainly had merit for Roger Colera is here in the United States on a GREEN CARD, he received over 7,000 votes in 5 states for president. Now tell me that case didn’t have merit. Roger Colera never denied he wasn’t a US citizen. Another interesting item here is that up until recently you could go to Wikipedia and there was a whole page of information on Mr. Colera, such as, at one time he ran for office in NY. It has all been removed??? Sorry Dad, but I was told by a lawyer that the NJ case was one of the best cases he had ever seen presented, when he looked over the brief. Do people also realize that BO/BS met with 8 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices, behind closed doors prior to the inauguration while case against BO/BS are still pending against him in the Supreme Court? This is like the defendant meeting behind closed doors with the jury!!! Rev. Gregori, you captured my feelings exactly!
Mr. Keyes may God bless you and your family, may he protect you and give you the strength to continue the fight!

Reno said...

Periwinkle Pete,
Nobody is checking, please see my previous post about Roger Colera, ran in 5 states, got 7000+ votes and is here in the US on a green card.

Periwinkle Pete said...

Every time I start a new job, I have to prove my citizenship or my legitimate claim to work in the United States of America. I have to fill out an I-9 form.

If I have to do that, it seems perfectly reasonable to ask the President to prove that he is qualified for office.

Alan Keyes said...

obamaconspiracy,

I see. "the threat is there" but we should act as if it isn't. Sounds like the posture Obama worshipers want from the rest of us with regard to everything he's up to. Heads down, eyes closed. Should we also get down on our knees? Maybe put our hands behind our backs? ):

Gilbert said...

I sent this blog out yesterday to the few remaining conservatives I know on the East Coast and, shockingly, in CHICAGO. They knew NOTHING about this case (which I have been watching for some time) and I asked them not to send it to liberals (obamaciples) because they do not understand. And they will NOT understand because of basic comprehension skills. They are much like the ape that maimed the lady this week. They can be taught amazing memory skills, but to put it all together is too much for them. Makes me wonder is there a part of what Darwin said that IS true???

Why should this man, who no one really knows WHERE he is from or which country he is a citizen of, be given special treatment? Because, most would say, he is our first BLACK president. That is not even true. I have had this argument with many of my black friends. He is half white AND his father was African. NOT BLACK. Sorry, but black people in this country have a history here that cannot, and SHOULD NOT, be confused with their African lineage. And by the same token, Africans do not share the same history with black people in this country. To say the two are the same nullifies every struggle we have had as a nation to get where we are (even if we are dead broke).

Face it. We have been caught up in the hype. For those of us who know the WORD of GOD, we know EXACTLY what is taking place - AND WHY. For the rest of you, roll up your sleeves and pull back your bangs...

Dr. Conspiracy said...

Dr. Keyes,

I apologize for my mistake. The comment I made about executive orders applies to the Keyes v. Obama lawsuit and not the Keyes v. Bowen lawsuit, the subject of this thread.

So as not to introduce a discussion about the wrong case, let me cast this question as a hypothetical:

If someone should bring a lawsuit which they had every reasonable belief would be dismissed, is it unreasonable for the person being sued to seek sanctions to as to deter others from bringing lawsuits of the same type?

Alan Keyes said...

Dr. Conspiracy,
So if unjust judges will slam the door against efforts to obtain justice, we should cease them or suffer penalties? I'm glad the attorneys fighting Jim Crow segregation didn't follow that servile logic.
Is it just a coincidence that in order to defend Obama you must implicitly deny the virtues and ideals people who won real breakthroughs for racial justice put into practice?

American Genie said...

Thank you, Mr. Keyes. God bless you.

God bless America!

Tony said...

Mr. Keyes I hope and pray you are successful. It becomes more critical with each passing day

Plan

As the flames of inflation they fan,
We are meeting the President’s plan,
With a history in campaign he deny,
Can be seen now as subterfuge and lie.

The nation towards Socialism he leads,
As his plan to break nation succeeds,
The input from fiscal Left does refuse,
As dollar its monetary value does lose.

Patriots saw this before he was elected,
But the Liberal Left Obama protected,
Now Socialism may be just a beginning,
As the enforcers of Sharia are winning.

Tony Melli
02-18-2009

Wayne said...

Dear Mr. Keys,

I would like to say again it would be great if you could help get a march on DC started. I have many friends who would get involved right now. Voting will not change the country we saw that in the last three elections. Please help.

Maggie said...

Dear Mr. Keyes,
Please keep up the good fight. There are people cheering you on and watching these cases before the courts to prove Obama's citizenship and the word is spreading throughout America. Occam's Razor is the theme here, if there is nothing to hide then provide the proof, easy and logical. Thank you for your unending valor in upholding our Constitution. Best Wishes, Maggie

Zapem said...

"If someone should bring a lawsuit which they had every reasonable belief would be dismissed, is it unreasonable for the person being sued to seek sanctions to as to deter others from bringing lawsuits of the same type?"

You don't read replies before you ask questions, do you, obamaconspiracy.org?

Explain why everyone else on the list in history had to qualify with extensive proof of documentation and your buddy hides behind privacy laws to conceal his own? It's unheard of in history, yet I notice you make no comment about that. I also notice you say nothing about the original lawsuit in these cases in 2008 that was Hollander v. McCain and the RNC, whereas it was McCain's long-form BC that came into question. That was ok with you I suppose? But it's not ok to dig it out when it comes to Obama.

Clear double-standard here based on political bias and nothing else. I see people like you as nothing more than beating a drum for their own politics instead of looking at the security of this country.

Seriously, you may want to think why that is because that's a characteristic about you when you ask questions like this without being able to put down the partisan-glasses and see the bigger picture.

I do notice however, that when a republican runs for office with eligibility issues, it's the democrats that are the first ones to scream and vice-versa. Now it's a smear campaign because it's Obama? Puh-lease!! I suppose you'll start accusing people of being racist, too. Sheesh!

You either qualify or you don't. Show the proof and stop this nonsense. That's where the true abuse lies - with Obama, his lawyers and his campaign. Don't try to spin it.

gop solution architect said...

Dr. Keyes, you have great courage in confronting Obama directly like this. I wish that more political leaders like yourself were as brave as you in confronting Obama. Unfortunately, they are not. So I would agree, and say that Obama will continue to escalate until his verbal threats extend to liberty and life itself. We have the makings of a mad dictator coming to power in America.

However, you are not alone. There are millions of us that stand ready to support you in any way we can. We all saw what happened to Joe the Plumber, who asked a simple question and Obama attempted to wipe him out. So we may continue in our regular day jobs, for we fear losing them if we come forward, but at night we are millions of bloggers and silent supporters who stand ready to defend our constitution at a moments notice.

May God continue to bless you and protect you.

SuperNatural said...

*sigh* Mr Keyes, how much further right can you go till you fall off the mountain. Hopefully not much further. Your accusations are amusing at best. Hell, you sound more like a sore loser since Pres. Obama beat you in the senate race in 04. Just like most of the far right wingnuts you offer no real solutions to fixing america's problems other than "throw me in there". President Obama's birth certificate was posted online, but people like you only belive what you want. You and your cronies amount to nothing more than a laughing stock among the general populus. The only person that needs to be stopped is you and your pure idiotic comments. I swear you'll do or say anything to stay in the spotlight won't you?
Futhermore people like YOU are ruining america by halting progress and using fear tactics to scare up some votes. Well you don't scare me, Mr. Keyes, nor do you scare anyone with sense.

kenandbetseyallen said...

For this very reason all Americans should be out there demanding proof from Obama. This man isn't my president, I took an oath and I stand by mine. A few weeks ago I was a guest on Plains radio, I talked about Americans sending thousands of Freedonm of information acts responsive to Obamas Birth Certificate. As of now Obama seems to want to silence any Attorney who goes after the truth, well he cant go after all of us even with all of George Soro's money. To date I have demanded that the Attorney General for Arizona investigate the vetting of Obama in Arizona because as we all know McCain was vetted here however because the previous Arizona administration was all liberal they didn't do much in the way of vetting their little darling. terry Goddard is our Attorney general and a liberal so I doubt that he will look into anything, but its not just the fight of Dr Orly, Alan keyes,Philip Berg to name a few but the absolute duty of every American to put a stop to this Hoax. I'm not an Attorney and I know those who are have their hands full but I will do what ever I can to put pressure on our state and federal government to help take some of the heat off those trying to expose Obama aka Barry Soetoro, not an American but a foreign agent intent on destroying our Nation.

kenandbetseyallen said...

Supernatural, the BC posted on Obama's site was a fraud, there is no race called African, there were also other discrepancy's. It seems that when liberals don't like to hear the truth they revert to calling names, "sound familiar". The only change Obama will bring is the destruction of America. If Mr Keyes is so wrong why are 26 states now claiming the 10th amendment soverign rights separate from Federal government, Why? because this new change in three weeks has managed to violate our constitutional rights and those of the states, and the states are giving fair warning to Obama to cease and desist. Sorry to burst you bubble but millions believe as Mr Keys does, that Obama is a fraud.

SuperNatural said...

Lets break down your argument and attack each one at once.
Supernatural, the BC posted on Obama's site was a fraud, there is no race called African, there were also other discrepancy's.
-So it's a fraud because you say it is. I have no proof it is real, but you have no proof it is false either. If you have tangible evidence that proves otherwise then show it. And african is a race, like being Caucasian or Asian. So that's not a reason.

It seems that when liberals don't like to hear the truth they revert to calling names, "sound familiar". The only change Obama will bring is the destruction of America.
-For all you know I could be the destruction of America or you. You have no grounds to make such a foolish accusation other than here-say. Now does that "sound familiar".

If Mr Keyes is so wrong why are 26 states now claiming the 10th amendment soverign rights separate from Federal government, Why? because this new change in three weeks has managed to violate our constitutional rights and those of the states, and the states are giving fair warning to Obama to cease and desist. Sorry to burst you bubble but millions believe as Mr Keys does, that Obama is a fraud.
-On the contrary and sorry to burst your bubble, but millions of "conservatives" say that. Not millions of Americans. Also the last time I checked a few republican governers, including the one in my home state, will refrain from accepting stimulus money, even though the citizens are hurting. The legislature will overstep them though so the money will be used.
And what rights are violated. Please list them.

Ru said...

YOU CAN PURCHASE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AT AN ONLINE DOCUMENT SITE. ONE OF OBAMA'S MINIONS PURCHASED OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AT THIS ONLINE DOCUMENTS PURCHASING SITE AND POSTED IT FOR HIM. IT COSTS 19.95 AND YOU PAY BY CREDIT CARD. YOU FILL IN THE STATE AND OTHER INFO AND VOILA'...YOU HAVE A PHONY BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH A GREEN BORDER JUST LIKE THE ONE PRESENTED AS OBAMA'S REAL ONE. IT HAS BEEN VERIFIED AS A PHONY DOCUMENT. IT IS ILLEGAL TO PASS OFF PHONY DOCUMENTS AS REAL. IT'S FRAUD, BUT THEN OBAMA IS 100% FRAUD. PRINCIPLES BEFORE PERSONALITIES. OBAMA IS A F'N PUPPET OF PELOSI AND A FIRST CLASS 100% FRAUD.

KeepHerSafe said...

SUPER NATURAL *SIGH*
You say that Obama’s birth certificate was posted online, I could post the queen of England’s birth records online but that does not prove that it is authentic.” IF HE IS A LEGAL CITIZEN” then why would he not STOP, this uncertainty and show his doubters that he is a legal citizen (?)

You say that people like us will believe what we want! We often hear slams from people like you ( idiotic, laughing, stock, and I love this one - halting progress and using fear tactics, your president, has done just this ) that do not uphold a legal constitutional government

Obama challengers, on this issue and others believe in a legal constitutional government, and if no challenge are made then we may fined our self’s living in a dictatorship - thus kissing democracy good-bye.

Lets not forget his thoughts and comments on having a citizen military, to help govern! WOW! So much for freedom of though, speech, and living your life on your on trems.

The old phrase: Ignorance, is bliss - becomes new again, and ever so true in your case.

kenandbetseyallen said...

Dr. Keyes, I just want you to know that a petition with more than 300 thousand signatures for proof from Omama, aka B Soetoro of his place of Birth. I also want you to know that there are millions of people out here becoming more aware of the problem we have in the white house. If this unconstitutional process continues there will be a problem for Obama. Obama seems to be waging war on many fronts on Americans, [real Americans] that is, and he started with the weakest the unborn. Hes will never be my president, and he needs to prove that he was even eligible, I say show us the proof.

The Candid Blogger said...

Keyes is a pathetic joke. He's such a loser he's not worthy of comment.

The comment that Americans weren't allowed to travel to Pakistan is WRONG. The U.S. State Department Travel Advisory to Pakistan in 1981 confirms the newspaper account:
"NO. 81-33A
Travel Advisory
Passport Services/Bureau of Consular Affa[irs]
Department of State/Wahington. D.C. 205__
AUGUST 17, 1981
TRAVEL TO PAKISTAN
BEFORE TRAVELING TO PAKISTAN, AMERICAN CITIZENS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE FOLLO[WING] UPDATED VISA REQUIREMENTS: 30 DAY VISAS ARE AVAILABLE AT PAKISTANI AIRPORTS [FOR] TOURISTS ONLY. AS THESE VISAS ARE RARELY EXTENDED BEYOND THE 30 DAY TIME PER[IOD,] TOURISTS PLANNING TO STAY LONGER SHOULD SECURE VISAS BEFORE COMING TO PAKIS[TAN.] ***"

Hawaii has not released a long form or vault certificate to ANYONE in 30 years. It's state policy. NOBODY gets a vault certificate anymore. Obama simply submitted the form he received from the state. The state authenticated its authenticity. Case closed.

As to his being born in Kenya, that is hilarious. Why would a pregnant white girl living with her parents in Hawaii travel to Kenya during the late stages of the Mau Mau uprising WITHOUT HER HUSBAND? She wouldn't.

Obama Sr. was in Kenya in 1960, but not again until 1965, so he wasn't there the year Barack was born. There is zero proof that Obama's mom was EVER in Kenya -- no travel records, nothing. Why? It never happened. Just another right-wing fantasy.

Brian said...

Super Natural... that's a nice name, but anyways your coment "-On the contrary and sorry to burst your bubble, but millions of "conservatives" say that. Not millions of Americans". suggests that "conservatives" are not americans.

I personally am a conservative. Republican all the way no doubt about it. I, in my short life, have never heard a republican, no matter how upset he was with the democratic party, even hint at the idea that democrats are not americans. I'm not saying that it hasn't happened, i'm just saying that I have not heard of it happening. It's people like you, Super Natural, that are the reason that republicans and democrats do not usually get along. I respect your right to say things like that as do most of the reblicans, but I believe it is extremely presumptuous of you to make such an outrageous claim. I will admit that me being only 18 years old, i do not know follow politics as much as i should, so i dont know much about politics but I do know a thing know a thing or two about respect, and you my friend have a lot to learn about the concept.

SuperNatural said...

Brian- I know a Brian. lol But enough with the chit chat. Let us dance.
Super Natural... that's a nice name, but anyways your coment "-On the contrary and sorry to burst your bubble, but millions of "conservatives" say that. Not millions of Americans". suggests that "conservatives" are not americans.
-In what way did my speech lead you to belive that conservatives aren't american. Palin did enough of trying to alienate conservatives from liberals so cut that out.

I personally am a conservative. Republican all the way no doubt about it. I, in my short life, have never heard a republican, no matter how upset he was with the democratic party, even hint at the idea that democrats are not americans. I'm not saying that it hasn't happened, i'm just saying that I have not heard of it happening. It's people like you, Super Natural, that are the reason that republicans and democrats do not usually get along. I respect your right to say things like that as do most of the reblicans, but I believe it is extremely presumptuous of you to make such an outrageous claim. I will admit that me being only 18 years old, i do not know follow politics as much as i should, so i dont know much about politics but I do know a thing know a thing or two about respect, and you my friend have a lot to learn about the concept.
- Respect? You may wanna relay that message to alot of the conservative voices before you try to teach me something. And before you assume that republicans don't make asinine comments i'll glady show you one. Read it if you want. I doubt you will But hey I tried.
Congresswoman Michele Bachman
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/17/gop-rep-channels-mccarthy_n_135735.html
Now Brian by the language you're using I led to belive that you think die hard liberal bent on the decimation of the republican party. Quite the contrary! I'm actually more of an independent
but the evident failure of the last presidency has moved me to take up a side, for now. If the republicans can actually bring something useful to the table then they earned my vote, but as of late the republicans bring nothing to the table that can have any real impact on the welfare of the country. They're quite reminisent of a spoiled child saying "no" to everything since they can't haver it their way. And I'm sorry but I'm not gonna stand for that. I'm 25 so we've seen about the same but I have my view and you have yours. And Brian try this, broaden your horizons and look into more than one view cause that "republican all the way" comment makes you seem really narrow minded.

SuperNatural said...

I was hoping on a response from Mr Keyes himself. Oh well you'll do for now.
SUPER NATURAL *SIGH*
You say that Obama’s birth certificate was posted online, I could post the queen of England’s birth records online but that does not prove that it is authentic.” IF HE IS A LEGAL CITIZEN” then why would he not STOP, this uncertainty and show his doubters that he is a legal citizen (?)
-Well most of america doesn't care about it. Lemme ask you, Will him showing his birth certificate help the workers who lost jobs due to the recession? If it will I'll join you in pressuring him to show it, but in reality you know the truth. It won't help anyone but the politicians who are against him. And show me in my previous post where I stated "it was genuine"
I just said it was posted online and went on to say we need to worry about other things. Fight this battle later once things have stabilized in America, or better yet exercise your right to vote in 2012.

You say that people like us will believe what we want! We often hear slams from people like you ( idiotic, laughing, stock, and I love this one - halting progress and using fear tactics, your president, has done just this ) that do not uphold a legal constitutional government.
-If you're an American citizen he should be your president too? I'm assuming you are. I loathed George W. Bush and his policies but he was still my president. And yes the Bush administration used nothing but fear tactics to run the country, "If we don't do this the terrorists will attack and kill you!" Sounds like a fear tactic to me. And Mr Keye's "he will destroy the country" comment. Yep you guessed it another fear tactic.
I'm glad you "love" my wording. Who knows maybe I've made a difference.

Obama challengers, on this issue and others believe in a legal constitutional government, and if no challenge are made then we may fined our self’s living in a dictatorship - thus kissing democracy good-bye.
-I believe in government. I mean at least I honor the american people's choice in voting. Something you seem to have forgotten.

Lets not forget his thoughts and comments on having a citizen military, to help govern! WOW! So much for freedom of though, speech, and living your life on your on trems.
-What fantasy world are you trapped in? I get to live by my terms. I mean i wish i had a little more money but hey in a recession, it happens. And what are you doing now? Seems like excercising your right to free speech?

The old phrase: Ignorance, is bliss - becomes new again, and ever so true in your case.
-Ignorance. Coming from an someone like you who'd rather meddle in USELESS battles that won't benefit anyone but select few. I think you need to check yourself before you pick a try to a fight with me on this matter. Let me reinterate for you. Fight this battle after our country has stabilized, or be patient sit it out and vote in 4 years.

Icarus said...

SuperNatural,
Sir, you're points are filled with logical fallacies. You frame your statements to imply a thing, and when called on these implied arguments you claim you never made the statement. This behavior leaves your fallacious insults un-founded, and your character in question. America is based upon the constitution, which is the basic rule of law that our society has agree to live by. If a society does not agree to live by the rule of law, then that society must live by the rule of force. There is no middle ground, although it may seem otherwise. The question at hand is not the state of our economy, nor whom won or lost in a political race, nor even whom is conservative or liberal, in fact, parties do not matter in the current debate. The question at hand is simply this, are we all playing by the same rule book, and accountable to the same “agreed to” standard. If Obama is not qualified to be president (and I am not saying that is the case) – then he should not be president, the same is true of McCain or anyone else. If a candidate is qualified and runs for office, he should present proof of eligibility upon request, or step down, that’s the right and proper thing to do (it’s also the lawful thing to do). If you want to change the rules, do it legally as provided for by that document called The Constitution of the United States of America, and then we can all agree to live by that rule (but first read the reasons behind the requirement, you may decide it’s a good idea to keep that requirement unchanged). Even athlete’s are expected to play, and win, by the rules of the game, and this is of much greater consequence then a game.

In general-
Think, are the current actions being taken, necessary and proper for the continued survival and future prosperity of our nation? These laws were put in place to protect your liberties as well as mine. If a politician is not required to live within the law, what then shall we expect of the citizens? I am encouraged that you claim to be more independent then partisan, but don't stop there. Continue to increase your education, and begin thinking on a bigger scale. Don't let the economy be your gravest concern, you can always make more money, your republic government and your liberty may be lost forever if you are not careful (no matter who is in office). If you truly want to understand why our nation is in the current financial crises, and therefore hope to find a solution to this problem without giving up liberty or acquiescing to lawlessness as a part of the bargain, I would recommend extensive reading from history, beginning with the men that created this republic. I personally have never setup a republican form of government, I do not know of anyone personally that has, therefore I am not experienced in the matter- However, I do know of people who have done it, and quite successfully, and they placed in writing the dangers we could expect to our liberties, and how to avoid them. One of the essential ingredients we need for a successful republic is an enlightened and educated voting citizenry; another ingredient is to have virtuous leaders governing over these citizens.

Leaders that put a priority on protecting and defending their national and state constitutions, and by default through these actions, protect the liberties of their citizens, even above their own personal gain. What we do not need, are leaders that pit the citizens against each other, by rewarding the unproductive, at the expense of the productive (Robin-Hood Taxation methods). Politicians that practice this do so in an attempt to win the (majority) votes of the least productive in society. These actions lead only to greater laziness and entitlement thinking within the population. The thinking goes, why should I work when I can have my politician take your grossly exaggerated salary away and give it to me… Do you suppose our nation can survive forever by spending more then it produces, and paying interest on the difference? Could you do this in your personal accounts, if not how do you suppose the government can do it- it is a financial flaw that leads to bankruptcy. There is much talk in financial circles regarding the national and global lenders of last resort- I am wondering who will be the global bankruptcy court of last resort. How much interest do you suppose is due on 10 Trillions of dollars? And to whom are we the people paying this interest to? And where did they get the money to lend us? Does this money (and I use that term loosely) even exist, are you familiar with the term fiat currency? How is it that “we” the people became indebted, and to whom exactly do we owe this money and interest to?…. Inquiring minds want to know, don’t you?

I think these ingredients (enlightened, educated and virtuous citizens) are lacking in our present circumstance (for several decades now). If you think I am mistaken, I challenge you to read former President Andrew Jackson’s veto message concerning the chartering of The Bank of the United States, written in 1832. It is quite enlightening. It details the problems and dangers inherent with placing a monopoly of the national monetary system in the hands of a private corporation (which by the way is another one of those items protected against in the constitution, which our leaders chose to ignore in 1913). If you read it, ask yourself one question. How could a president from 1832 be so informed regarding banking, financing, constitutional law, treaties, taxation, liberty, and commonsense connect the dots type logical analysis- as compared to the 21st century citizen with 4, 7, or an even greater number of years of college education, gained at supposedly the best universities in the world- Why can’t today’s well educated citizens compete intellectually with the educated man of 1832, or even 1776? How is it he knew so much regarding the subjects of dealing with this form of government, it’s taxation, it’s financial system? And why aren’t we as a nation as educated in these areas? Perhaps our education has been misguided? What we need is to stop bickering and start working together, we are in the same ship, if my ship sinks so does yours no matter who the captain is at the time of the sinking! We as a people need to do what is right, not what is convenient or easy. We need to do this for our nation, and our children, and humanity in general. Let’s try working together, using reason and dialogue as our tools, so we as a nation don’t have to resort to force and violence, again.

Former President Jackson’s article can be found here,

http://alpha.furman.edu/7Ebenson/docs/ajveto.htm

Alan Keyes said...

Icarus,
Well and thoughtfully said. What's the keyboard equivalent of a standing O?

Icarus said...

Mr. Keyes,
Thank you for your kind words. We can use people of your character to represent us in government affairs. Keep up the good work, and never tire of doing what is right.

Patricia said...

Mr. Keys give it up!! In case you have not noticed an overwhelming majority of the American people voted for President Obama. In addition, they feel he has sufficiently answered the question regarding his citizenship adequately. Only you and your (however few) followers seem to have a problem with the findings. Lastly, for once be honest with your motives, you don't love and respect this country. You love your political party, and if the country fails when your not in office,so be it. Thank God our country is spared the likes of you to our high office. Perhaps in your idle time ( in between law suites) you can be a productive member of society and help to bring this country back to the high standard we are accustomed to, rather than be the voice of the neigh sayer. You remember those days don't you? The days before the last administration ran our beloved country to the ground? In short, if you love this country and its constitution, respect it and the President we elected to run it. And for GOd's sake stop whining!!!

Lisa Jean said...

Patricia, You obviously are rather uninformed and uneducated regarding the FACTS! The truth is the majority did not vote for Obama. You need to check out the vote of the people. And as for those who did vote for him, most were swayed by personality and too lazy to seek out truth, or had their own selfish agendas.
It sounds to me like you are following what you believe to be the popular opinion. Its a pipe dream. There will always be the 5% who make the most noise, but there is always still the 95% who do not agree.
I encourage you to seek out the truth without predisposition to the extreme left. You might learn something and even be surprised.
One last point, the Truth stands whether you agree with it or not.

Thank you Mr. Keyes (Patricia - that is the correct spelling, by the way), for standing for truth at all cost! God bless you richly!

Jim Smoak said...

I've been following this topic for about a month now, but what has hit me square between my teary eyes tonight in parsing through these comments is the fact that hundreds of thousands of men and women gave their lives in battle for the constitutional freedoms that are now being trampled on by the very government that sent them in harms way. We are on the verge (on many domestic and foreign fronts) to throw away everything that made this country what it is. May God have mercy on us...

Dr. Keyes, God bless, protect and provide for you in this fight, for it is a worthy one.

YellowJacket said...

Our Borders have been breached,a REAl President would have secured them,then rounded up every illegal alein and deported them,there are approx. 30 million illegal's in the United States today, with them gone, American's would have job's and there would be NO need for a stimulus package.Our industry's have left the United States for cheaper labor,sorry but if you do not return,we will not import your products,made in America means quality,not quanity,Our small indipendant businesses have been rendered extinct,they were the stepping stones of this great nation,WE THE PEOPLE WILL SURVIVE,WE WERE THEN, WE WILL NOW.For you people who are so fired up to become communist,please go visit the graves of those who fought and died to keep this Country FREE,because in the very near future you may have to fight for what you beleave in...let me refraise that...you may have to fight.Freedom is not cheap,but it is a choice that many of us will keep til death do WE part.
It does'nt take much to realize what is happening to OUR COUNTRY and there is only one march to make and that is to take back our Country for, WE THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE,OF THE PEOPLE.
For those who did not understand Mr.Keyes...HE was to be,is the voice of WE THE PEOPLE,it is WE who have to make and keep that first step,it is WE who have to stand shoulder to shoulder,arm in arm ,hand in hand,to keep AMERICA FREE,IT IS OUR FIGHT,not just one's,but all of us!Our CONSTITUTION is regarded as trash,WE are being trampled on this very second and it will get alot worse....By the way GOD help's those who help themself's and this is way beyond politic's now and the thunder is getting LOUDER FROM THE GRAVES OF THOSE WHO FOUGHT TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY FREE!!!.

cynthia said...

If bo will not produce a legal, live birth certificate --- and not a false one like the one on his website --- then we must, for the sake of our democracy begin proceedings IMMEDIATELY TO REMOVE HE AND HIS FAMILY FROM 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. He will have hijacked our country by not adhering to our Constitution. He has ALREADY begun proceedings to hijack this country in many more ways than this. He is moving at the "SPEED OF LIGHT". The things he is pulling off are unprecedented in history - except maybe by Adolph Hitler. Once he has tied up our banking system we will have no choice but subservience to him.

PEOPLE: THE TIME IS NOW TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY! AMERICA'S SECOND REVOLUTION IS HERE.

ACCORDING TO JOHN HANCOCK one of America's founding father's ----
when faced with tyranny, "resistance is so far from being criminal, that it becomes the Christian and the social duty of each individual...We trust you will still continue steadfast...but with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which Heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us." .................................... Feb. 9, 1774, the Provincial Congress of Massachusetts, John Hancock presiding.

It is imperative for us to organize and NOT ALLOW this TRAVESTY to happen. LET THE SECOND REVOLUTION BEGIN NOW!

Bartlesville1943 said...

I am not an attorney, but I did some research several years ago and I recall seeing a Supreme Court ruling with words similar to those used the post by Icarus. The court said it's ruling must do what is "necessary and proper for the continued survival and future prosperity of our nation".

I understood those words to mean: Our government will do what ever is ... "necessary and proper for the continued survival and future prosperity of our nation".

Saying that, I believe those in government will take what ever steps necessary to prevent the subject of Obama's eligibility from receiving a proper hearing because they are afraid of what would happen if it was proved Obama should be removed from office.

There is no telling what would happen, but it would certainly cause great civil unrest and a loss of confidence in our nation as a whole. I believe those in government who are fighting you are afraid this issue could stop ... " the continued survival and future prosperity of our nation" ... as we know it now.

We should expect the courts to use any and every excuse necessary to prevent this from coming to a head.

Please, keep up the good work and do not give up!

Sujan Patricia said...

First off we would like to congratulate you on your fine public speaking skills. It looks like those who said the Obama Administration would strike while the iron is hot may have been correct, and the Administration may be doing it in a way that does not require them to even get a vote in Congress.

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Keyes2012 said...

Mr. Keyes, although you are viewed as crazy in modern times. This will not be the imaged portrayed in the future. You are a modern day George Washington, minus the funny wig. keep up the good work.

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Hoteles, Viajes y Cruceros said...

Thursday, October 08, 2009

Mr. Alan Keyes

Dear Sir.

I am so happy that you are doing what´s right for the United States of America. Please do not stop, even if it takes you to paths of inferno, because to be honest with you Mr. Keyes, the Democrat Party and others, will do whatever they can to stop you and to make you suffer, in order to portect their messiah Obama. They will use any way of intimidation to harass you.

Once all this is unfolded, and the messiah Obama is found guilty as charge, the Democrat Party will be isolated for years and years to come. I mean no one will believe in the Democrat Party, not even in a thousand years. The messiah Obama, will be prosecuted for treason. Members of higher ranking in the Democrat Party, will be prosecuted for treason the same way.

Anything the messiah Obama signed in to law, will be undone.

Mr. Keyes, please keep it on, you´ll win this batle, because you aren´t alone.

God bless you, and God bless the United States of America once more.

Truthfully,
J C Delgado

Hoteles, Viajes y Cruceros said...

Odumbo will go down.

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